[ratelimits] rrl mention in an nlnetlabs tech report

Matthijs Mekking matthijs at nlnetlabs.nl
Mon Aug 26 07:52:14 UTC 2013


Hi,

On 08/23/2013 10:13 AM, Yasuhiro Orange Morishita wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I've found a presentation slides made by the author.  Thanks for google.
> <http://rp.delaat.net/2012-2013/p92/presentation.pdf>

This presentation is not about the RRL measurements. This is a small
research done by on of our other interns, and is about using Visual
Analytics to discover DNS abuse.

The presentation on the RRL report is here:

    http://rp.delaat.net/2012-2013/p29/presentation.pdf

> 
>> Made by one of our interns.
> 
> Your intern is great.

To be precise, the research was done by two interns.

Best regards,
  Matthijs

> 
> -- Orange
> 
>> --Olaf
>>
>> PS. other related intern work: http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/downloads/publications/report-rrl-dekoning-rozekrans.pdf
>>
> 
> From: Olaf Kolkman <olaf at NLnetLabs.nl>
> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:01:24 +0200
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22 aug. 2013, at 20:02, Paul Vixie <paul at redbarn.org> wrote:
>>
>>> saw this:
>>>
>>>> Another pro-active technique is Response Rate
>>>> Limiting (RRL) [29]. It limits the number of unique
>>>> responses sent by the authoritative server. Roughly,
>>>> it works by keeping track of of several pieces of
>>>> information of the responses. With every subsequent
>>>> request, the name server checks whether the
>>>> response that would be sent exceeds the set limit
>>>> of responses per second per set of information. If
>>>> this is the case, it either responds only once in a
>>>> number of queries (configurable) or it sends a
>>>> truncated (TC-flag set) answer, forcing a legitimate
>>>> resolver to retry the query over TCP. RRL is currently
>>>> the most promising technique and is implemented
>>>> in the most popular name server software like
>>>> BIND [14], NSD [20] and Knot [17]. The effectiveness
>>>> of RRL is debated, it stops unsophisticated
>>>> attacks using reflection. 
>>>
>>> here:
>>>
>>> http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/downloads/publications/report-rp2-lexis.pdf
>>
>>
>> Made by one of our interns.
>>
>> I wonder if you wanted to express something more than "look at this" with the specific quote?
>>
>> --Olaf
>>
>> PS. other related intern work: http://www.nlnetlabs.nl/downloads/publications/report-rrl-dekoning-rozekrans.pdf
>>
>>
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