[ratelimits] Poor CERT warning message

P Vixie paul at redbarn.org
Tue Sep 10 22:13:54 UTC 2013


The announcement is rubbish. I've argued this extensively with the discoverers and now that they've gone public so will I.  Vixie

Geert Jan de Groot <GeertJan.deGroot at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>Please have a look at:
>https://www.ncsc.nl/dienstverlening/response-op-dreigingen-en-incidenten/beveiligingsadviezen/NCSC-2013-0597+1.00+Rate+limiting+van+DNS+responses+veroorzaakt+kwetsbaarheid.htm
>
>(which is in Dutch and which breaks google translate; cut/paste 
>the text itself does work however).
>
>Note that this refers to a CERT message from a French CERT (again,
>use 'translate if required).
>
>I think these CERT warnings are poorly informed, incorrect, 
>and lack a fundamental understanding of how RRL works. 
>
>The mitigation proposed, instead of using RRL, is problematic:
>"Managers of resolver DNS servers (!) could use monitoring to
>detect unusual high amounts of DNS requests to detect an attack".
>Right.
>
>Unfortunately, CERT messages are sometimes seen as gospel
>even when they are incorrect.
>
>I'm not sure about what to do against spread of this misinformation.
>
>Geert Jan
>
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